The Official Just Survive Discussion Thread

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edited February 28 in Gameplay Discussion

Moments ago @CastoroGamer created an announcement post detailing all the current info related to Just Survive (quoted below for anyone who has not seen it). There is no information to share outside of this currently, but we wanted to give everyone in the JS community a location to talk about the game and ideas they may have for it. We would like to encourage you all to use this thread as the main thread for discussing JS and ideas you may have related to it. Once there is new information to share we will be sure to update you all. Until then we look forward to keeping up with the JS communities ideas here in this thread.

We would like to ask the JS community to please take a moment to digest this information and really think about how we all can help each other in making a combined effort of Z1BR and bringing a JS mode into it a success. The first step for us is to make sure we get a good foot forward and start to bring back a healthy user base on Z1BR. We appreciate and love seeing the passion the JS community has for the game and look forward to the day that we get to tell you all that it has cleared Legal's hands.

-SUP3R

@CastoroGamer said:
We know that there are a lot of players out there who loved the original zombie survival content in H1Z1, which was split off into its own game known as Just Survive.

We think it's important for players to understand that we (NantG) do not have the rights to Just Survive. We have the rights to develop and operate the PC game formerly known as H1Z1 Battle Royale. To help everyone understand the situation, here's some background:

  • NantG Mobile, llc - Is a Joint Venture between NantWorks and Daybreak Games. Here's an excerpt from the original press release;

NantWorks, a diversified holding company, today announced that it has made a strategic investment in Daybreak Game Company, a leading developer and publisher of multiplayer online games. In connection with the investment, NantWorks has obtained a controlling interest in a new joint venture with Daybreak, NantG Mobile, LLC, which has been formed to develop and publish mobile versions of Daybreak’s current games – H1Z1 and EverQuest – and to build and publish video games across all platforms. In addition, the JV will now assume control and management of the current PC H1Z1 Battle Royale game. Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, CEO and Chairman of NantWorks and Owner and Executive Chairman of the Los Angeles Times, will join Daybreak’s board of directors.

As you can see, Just Survive was not part of the original deal. However, back in October, NantG announced on a Twitch stream that we were working on a deal with Daybreak to incorporate Just Survive into Z1 Battle Royale. Since then, we've been negotiating for the rights to re-incorporate the code, assets, gameplay & historical player data into Z1 Battle Royale, not as a stand-alone game. Hopefully, that negotiation will conclude shortly, but until that happens, there's not a lot that we can share with you about those conversations, except that they are on-going.

What can you do? You can let people know that NantG is working with Daybreak to bring JS back and that supporting Z1 Battle Royale and the NantG team is the best shot at getting your OG Z1 survival fix back. The success of our March 6th update will be pivotal in reuniting Just Survive with Z1 Battle Royale.

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Comments

  • MattMatt Member

    thanks for the update

  • PanchitimePanchitime Member

    We are looking forward to and very much appreciate all your efforts.
    I believe that sometime we will be able to combine 2 great games into one and everyone will be happy! <3
    But now we need to make it great @ Z1BattleRoyale Because I love her very much!

  • DC_TrainDC_Train Member ✭✭

    If it comes back the Top Issues are
    A. Recoil
    B. Crouch Fatigue
    C. Less loot to build a Base

  • On another note, IMO I think that Just Survive should be re-released as it's own separate game (maybe have Z1: Battle Royale and Z1: Just Survive), as if it's added into Z1BR as another mode, it might not get as much attention as it would as a stand-alone game. People searching for a new survival game to play would most likely have a hard time finding the game (especially with battle royale in the title). Just a suggestion, and I hope that JS comes back strong.

  • @DC_Train said:
    If it comes back the Top Issues are
    A. Recoil
    B. Crouch Fatigue
    C. Less loot to build a Base

    A. Seeing Z1BR recoil for ar and ak on JS would be nice
    B. I agree heavily with that, the crouching before the game shut down was awful
    C. The old base system took a perfectly balanced amount of loot to build imo, and i don't think it should be changed.

  • SinyaSinya Member

    Imagine JS was added to the game under the ps3 feel h1z1 had.

    Instead of the beautiful visual ps3 with all that sunny type of theme, just wonder how it would look on a JS mode by having the foggy/silent hill type of theme on the map.

    The JS mode would be NUTS.

  • are we been annoying to you guys?
    cuz we keep asking for JS . every day...

  • CeezonsCeezons Member

    So basically, there are no legalities. They are just waiting for Z1BR to blow up before opening up JS again. This is what I'm getting from all of this. Prove me wrong.

  • sivveh1z1sivveh1z1 Member

    I hope just survive will come soon <3

  • jl94x4jl94x4 Member

    Agree with most people regarding bringing late 2016 version back.

    I have my doubts whether we will see it at all based on the new announcement, feels like if BR fails, JS will not see the light of day.

    Sadly, I think BR will fail.

  • did anyone mention. the current Z1br Snipe zoom"ing" feels weird?
    I was jumping from Just Survive to Z1br.
    The snipe zooming feels different.

    Maybe it just me...

  • sp0ngeyysp0ngeyy Member

    I have 50 questions i would like you to poll, i hope you can add to this list.
    1.) Do you want the old shelters / base building ?

    2.) Do you want the ability to glitch bases, gates, and shelters ?

    3.) Do you want to keep check points ?

    4.) Do you want less ammo, guns, worn letters and Banshees ?

    5.) Do you want more old fertilizer spawns ie breaking boxes, bins etc ?

    6.) Do you want Ieds and Ethanol ?

    7.) Do you want static guns spawns ?

    8.) Do you want to revert to the old way loot spawned ie pick it up and drop it ?

    9.) Do you want the special zombies back that give specialized gun parts ?

    10.) Do you want the ability to build as much as you like ?

    11.) Do you want to be able to build anywhere you want ?

    12.) Do you want to have to break down bullets one at a time ?

    13.) Do you want to repair your bases ?

    14.) Do you want the kill feed ?

    15.) Do you want a slower looting timer ?

    16.) Do you want boosting ?

    17.) Would you want the ability to level up guns ?

    18.) Do you want fuel in fuel pumps ?

    19.) Do you want to be able to hotwire a car ?

    20.) Do you want the ability to drink from toilets and sinks ?

    21.) Do you like the clan system ?

    22.) Do you like knowing how many people are in a server ?

    23.) Do you want to keep your stash ?

    24.) Do you want to keep pictures ?

    25.) Do you want to be able to make a bear ?

    26.) Do you want to keep the mounted Deer head ?

    27.) Do you want to keep the medicine cabinet ?

    28.) Do you want to keep the glass recipe ?

    29.) Do you want to keep the Double bit axe ?

    30.) Do you want to keep the Katana ?

    31.) Do you want to keep the Ammo Crate ?

    32.) Do you want to keep the snowshoes ?

    33.) Do you want to keep the table ?

    34.) Do you want to keep dough/bread ?

    35.) Do you want to keep adhesive ?

    36.) Do you want to keep your stash ?

    37.) Do you want the ability to make a backpack ?

    38.) Do you want to be able to place torches all over the map ?

    39.) Ban Bingo anybody ?

    40.) Do you like the Vault ?

    41.) Do you want snaking / crouch spam ?

    42.) Old or new fall damage ?

    43.) Ability to scrap cars / metal sheets etc ?

    44.) Base protection ?

    45.) Skins for example the stronghold recipes that change colour of base ?

    46.) Do you want to keep traps ?

    47.) Would you like to know who raided your base and when it happened.

    48.) Would you like to see raided bases bases burning and smoking.

    49.) Would you like a flare and a siren to go off when being raided.

    50.) Ability to build a roof.

  • ZombieZombie Member

    If Just Survive is gonna come back it can't have the new building/raiding style, it as to be old. The game was just boring and bland with the new building/raiding, everything was the same, there was not skill, no knowledge besides the amount needed.

  • sp0ngeyysp0ngeyy Member

    Its a joke that this is the only place we get to discuss the game we love, open up our own forum.

  • DC_TrainDC_Train Member ✭✭

    @sp0ngeyy said:
    I have 50 questions i would like you to poll, i hope you can add to this list.
    1.) Do you want the old shelters / base building ?

    2.) Do you want the ability to glitch bases, gates, and shelters ?

    3.) Do you want to keep check points ?

    4.) Do you want less ammo, guns, worn letters and Banshees ?

    5.) Do you want more old fertilizer spawns ie breaking boxes, bins etc ?

    6.) Do you want Ieds and Ethanol ?

    7.) Do you want static guns spawns ?

    8.) Do you want to revert to the old way loot spawned ie pick it up and drop it ?

    9.) Do you want the special zombies back that give specialized gun parts ?

    10.) Do you want the ability to build as much as you like ?

    11.) Do you want to be able to build anywhere you want ?

    12.) Do you want to have to break down bullets one at a time ?

    13.) Do you want to repair your bases ?

    14.) Do you want the kill feed ?

    15.) Do you want a slower looting timer ?

    16.) Do you want boosting ?

    17.) Would you want the ability to level up guns ?

    18.) Do you want fuel in fuel pumps ?

    19.) Do you want to be able to hotwire a car ?

    20.) Do you want the ability to drink from toilets and sinks ?

    21.) Do you like the clan system ?

    22.) Do you like knowing how many people are in a server ?

    23.) Do you want to keep your stash ?

    24.) Do you want to keep pictures ?

    25.) Do you want to be able to make a bear ?

    26.) Do you want to keep the mounted Deer head ?

    27.) Do you want to keep the medicine cabinet ?

    28.) Do you want to keep the glass recipe ?

    29.) Do you want to keep the Double bit axe ?

    30.) Do you want to keep the Katana ?

    31.) Do you want to keep the Ammo Crate ?

    32.) Do you want to keep the snowshoes ?

    33.) Do you want to keep the table ?

    34.) Do you want to keep dough/bread ?

    35.) Do you want to keep adhesive ?

    36.) Do you want to keep your stash ?

    37.) Do you want the ability to make a backpack ?

    38.) Do you want to be able to place torches all over the map ?

    39.) Ban Bingo anybody ?

    40.) Do you like the Vault ?

    41.) Do you want snaking / crouch spam ?

    42.) Old or new fall damage ?

    43.) Ability to scrap cars / metal sheets etc ?

    44.) Base protection ?

    45.) Skins for example the stronghold recipes that change colour of base ?

    46.) Do you want to keep traps ?

    47.) Would you like to know who raided your base and when it happened.

    48.) Would you like to see raided bases bases burning and smoking.

    49.) Would you like a flare and a siren to go off when being raided.

    50.) Ability to build a roof.

    a Good list for a community poll

  • LivPrimeLivPrime Member ✭✭✭

    Snaking honestly ruined the original game for me. Original mechanics -snaking would be a god tier survival game. Just work to polish the game.

  • @sp0ngeyy said:
    Its a joke that this is the only place we get to discuss the game we love, open up our own forum.

    They want all JS discussion happen in this thread.
    it will be easier for them to collect ours opinion.

  • SPOOKYNICKSPOOKYNICK Member

    @Ceezons said:
    So basically, there are no legalities. They are just waiting for Z1BR to blow up before opening up JS again. This is what I'm getting from all of this. Prove me wrong.

    no you idiot, they legally don't own the rights yet and can't put it out until they do. learn to read why dont you

  • I think the legal pending are almost done.
    otherwise they wouldn't post this thread and letting us having a discussion on Just Survive.

  • StitchesStitches Member

    I think the legal is done. They just wanna wait and see how 6 march update will work.

  • JamesJames Member

    I also quote the following "The success of our March 6th update will be pivotal in reuniting Just Survive with Z1 Battle Royale."

    What success is required from March 6 to reunite JS? Player numbers, revenue, game coding and stability, or the legal stuff to be sorted?

    I am concerned, Thoughts!?

  • JimbotJimbot Member

    Everyone has their own opinion of what JS should be when it's reincorporated but I believe the team can see this plan through.

    I just wanna camp out in Rancho and build my deck and have a few cold ones while watching the mayhem outside.

  • JamesJames Member

    I am just an ordinary, average guy with a job and a family ... and I really miss JS (I really really hope it returns in Season 4).

    Here is why I think JS was/is awesome:

    It was easy and fun!
    No RNG or Boss fights for OP gear ... you just had to find it!
    No grinding for toon levels and abilities.
    Zombies were killable. Wolves were a challenge (en mass), and I was sad when Bears got nerfed!
    The map was fun to explore!
    You could be old, slow, the phone would ring, could relax with a beverage, play with an old rig and it didn't matter.
    Just find a spot, build a base, claim a car, and your free to relax with mates until next server wipe.

  • HECKNNHECKNN Member ✭✭✭

    First I’d like to say I hope Z1BR does exceptionally well on March 6!

    Second I think once legal is complete and we have more info, putting a test server back up is the best way to go starting off. Don’t change anything just put the TEST back up how it is. Note: on-going changes will be made to the test server and will get feedback from the community after each update before going live. Live servers would not go live til we’re satisified with the test. *There would still be a few minor changes/wipes etc...once the live servers do go up.

    I love sp0ngeyy’s questions below, so I’ll add my responses.

    1.) Do you want the old shelters / base building ?

    NO!!! KEEP CURRENT THREE TIERED SYSTEM

    2.) Do you want the ability to glitch bases, gates, and shelters ?

    NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT YOU’RE MEANING BUT SOME OF THOSE “GLITCHES” IM THINKING OF WERE NEEDED.

    3.) Do you want to keep check points ?

    YES

    4.) Do you want less ammo, guns, worn letters and Banshees ?

    NO

    5.) Do you want more old fertilizer spawns ie breaking boxes, bins etc ?

    SURE, ADDING MORE POINTS GIVES EVERYONE BETTER CHANCE AT OBTAINING FERT.

    6.) Do you want Ieds and Ethanol ?

    NOT REALLY—DON’T SEE HUGE DEAL WITH IT. THE CURRENT RECIPE AND BUNDLES ARE FINE WITH ME.

    7.) Do you want static guns spawns ?

    SURE

    8.) Do you want to revert to the old way loot spawned ie pick it up and drop it ?

    N/A

    9.) Do you want the special zombies back that give specialized gun parts ?

    I WOULD LIKE ZOMBIE ‘LOOT’ BACK WHERE THEY HAVE MORE THAN NADES AND LETTERS

    10.) Do you want the ability to build as much as you like ?

    KEEP CURRENT 3 TIER BASES AND INCREASE FOUNDATION LIMIT. ONLY OWN 1 BASE AND 1 SHACK

    11.) Do you want to be able to build anywhere you want ?

    CERTAIN SERVERS BASICALLY ALLOWED THIS

    12.) Do you want to have to break down bullets one at a time ?

    NO

    13.) Do you want to repair your bases ?

    NO BUT HAVING A CERTAIN TIME FRAME OF INACTIVITY WOULD MAKE YOUR BASE BECOME ‘CLAIMABLE’

    14.) Do you want the kill feed ?

    MAYBE EVENTUALLY

    15.) Do you want a slower looting timer ?

    NO

    16.) Do you want boosting ?

    AS IN BOOSTING CHARACTERS OVER WALLS, NO

    17.) Would you want the ability to level up guns ?

    YES-I LIKE THE 3 TIERED WEAPONS

    18.) Do you want fuel in fuel pumps ?

    YES ALREADY IS

    19.) Do you want to be able to hotwire a car ?

    NO—YOU NEED PARTS

    20.) Do you want the ability to drink from toilets and sinks ?

    SURE

    21.) Do you like the clan system ?

    YES, COULD BE IMPROVED SOME

    22.) Do you like knowing how many people are in a server ?

    YES

    23.) Do you want to keep your stash ?

    YES

    24.) Do you want to keep pictures ?

    DOESNT MATTER

    25.) Do you want to be able to make a bear ?

    ?? NOT SURE

    26.) Do you want to keep the mounted Deer head ? SURE

    27.) Do you want to keep the medicine cabinet ?

    YES

    28.) Do you want to keep the glass recipe ?

    SURE

    29.) Do you want to keep the Double bit axe ?

    YES

    30.) Do you want to keep the Katana ?

    YES

    31.) Do you want to keep the Ammo Crate ?

    YES

    32.) Do you want to keep the snowshoes ?

    SURE

    33.) Do you want to keep the table ?

    YES

    34.) Do you want to keep dough/bread ?

    YES

    35.) Do you want to keep adhesive ?

    YES

    36.) Do you want to keep your stash ?

    YES

    37.) Do you want the ability to make a backpack ?

    SURE, A SMALLER ONE AND KEEPING THE OTHERS

    38.) Do you want to be able to place torches all over the map ?

    NO

    39.) Ban Bingo anybody ?

    LOL

    40.) Do you like the Vault ?

    YES YES YES

    41.) Do you want snaking / crouch spam ?

    CROUCH YES , SNAKING NO

    42.) Old or new fall damage ?

    DONT CARE

    43.) Ability to scrap cars / metal sheets etc ?

    NO COMMENT. I LIKE THE CURRENT MAT SYSTEM TO BUILD BASES AND COMPONENTS

    44.) Base protection ?

    SURE - KEEP CURRENT DEFENSES MAYBE ADD SOMETHING???

    45.) Skins for example the stronghold recipes that change colour of base ?

    YES! I HAVE BLACK STONE. KEEP ALL SKINS, WEAPONS ETC....

    46.) Do you want to keep traps ?

    SURE

    47.) Would you like to know who raided your base and when it happened.

    YES :)

    48.) Would you like to see raided bases bases burning and smoking.

    SURE

    49.) Would you like a flare and a siren to go off when being raided.

    NO- RADIO DOES THE TRICK

    ——-

    I just want the game to come back with lots of players, good servers and updates. Keeping current base building (I LIKE), change the raiding process whatever, keep PvP, make recipes learnable or keep them open to everyone (don’t care). I say no BWC and fix laggy animals and zombies!!! The End.

    —HECKNN

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